Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is a metabolite of testosterone that’s recommended by some SRS surgeons to encourage genital growth in transgender men. DHT can be topically applied in a transdermal cream, but is not to be confused with testosterone cream or testogel/androgel. DHT is at least three times more potent as an androgenic compound and is therefore the preferred choice for FTM genital growth.
DHT plays a vital role in virilization. When a trans man injects testosterone, his body converts some of it into DHT. It influences facial and body hair growth, voice changes, sex drive, and growth of muscle and genital tissue. Unlike other androgens, DHT cannot be converted to estradiol, and it’s not anabolic, so it doesn’t build up in tissues, muscles and bones.
DHT for Dick Growth
For genital growth, a 10% DHT concentration, non-alcoholic cream is desired. A typical dosage is 20 mg administered three times a day. Rub the cream onto the glans, shaft and foreskin; it absorbs quickly. A typical length of treatment is three months.
Topical DHT shouldn’t drastically affect blood pressure or testosterone levels, but it may be a good idea to get blood work done while you’re using DHT. Observe your moods and adjust your testosterone dosage if required.
Getting a Prescription for DHT
To get a prescription for DHT, ask your doctor or endocrinologist for “10% Dihydrotestosterone cream.” If they grant your request, take the prescription to a compounding pharmacy. Be sure to specify that the cream should not contain any alcohol.
In North America, DHT had been available to compounding pharmacies through the PCCA. In July 2009, the PCCA announced that they were out of stock and that the manufacturer had ceased production of DHT. It’s unknown if there are other sources available. It’s very difficult, if not impossible, to get a prescription for DHT filled in North America at this time.
Buying DHT Online
You can buy a 2.5% DHT gel called Andractim online and without a prescription. However, this product is alcohol based and may cause a temporary burning sensation. It’s also important to note that DHT is a Schedule III Controlled Substance. In North America, it’s illegal to import DHT. Purchase at your own risk. If you do buy DHT online, check off “female” for gender on the order form, otherwise you’ll be required to purchase a prostate test kit.
Side Effects of DHT
Hair Loss
Despite being responsible for facial and body hair growth, one of the potential side effects of DHT is hair loss. DHT leaves a waxy substance at the root of hair follicles on the scalp that can inhibit hair growth. One possible solution is saw palmetto berry extract tincture, a natural herb that’s been shown to block DHT. The tincture can be mixed with water and topically applied to the scalp to prevent that build up in the hair follicle roots. Dosage is 30-60 drops daily. A one month supply of saw palmetto tincture costs about $25 USD.
Secondary Exposure
Like Androgel, DHT cream presents a risk of transference and requires diligence to prevent accidental secondary exposure to sexual partners, children, and pets. Washing well 1 hour after application reduces—but does not eliminate—chance of exposure. The only safe form of protection is zero exposure.
DHT Research
While there aren’t any clinical studies about DHT and transgender men, we can look to related studies for some guidance, particularly with regard to safety.
Transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy and its effects on patients with microphallus.
All patients demonstrated growth of the penis during treatment. The mean increase rate (153%) in the first 4 weeks of treatment was higher than that (118%) of the second 4 weeks… In conclusion, transdermal dihydrotestosterone therapy is an effective and relatively safe modality in the treatment of microphallus.
We conclude that 3 months treatment with transdermal dihydrotestosterone gel demonstrates expected androgenic effects, short-term safety, and limited improvement in lower limb muscle strength but no change in physical functioning or cognitive function.
…percutaneous DHT administration is a relatively safe modality of androgen replacement therapy as far as atherogenicity is concerned.
Absorption of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) after its intramuscular administration.
…suitable for long-term substitution therapy.
DHT offers trans men the potential for genital growth that exceeds the promises of testosterone therapy alone. While dedicated research is lacking, related studies and anecdotal accounts suggest that DHT is a safe and promising treatment.
Thanks for taking the time to write, test and report your experience.
Joshua,
Please tell us what growth (length and girth) you experienced? Did you administer typical dosage of 20 mg three times a day? If you are in USA, could you recommend a doctor and/or pharmacy? Thank you.
Fred, I haven’t done my official final measurement, but I achieved about 1/2″ to 3/4″ of extra length. Not sure I got much extra girth though. It might not sound like much, but it could mean the difference between clearing my fly or not post-op, so I’m pleased. Yes, I used 20mg of 10% DHT three times a day.
I’m not in the US. I obtained a prescription from my primary care provider here in Canada, and had it filled at a compounding pharmacy, with DHT sourced from the PCCA.
Hey Joshua
I got the andractim gel online and found that if I use lidocaine ointment before I apply the gel it doesn’t sting at all. My question is, should I use it more than 3 times a day because it’s only 2.5%?
Lidocaine is a great idea! Someone on YouTube suggested Orajel. (Note: Anbesol has alcohol in it, apparently Orajel does not.) However, Orajel is not intended for genital use, while lidocaine is, so again, great idea Key!
Given that the Andractrim is only 2.5% concentration, yes you could use more safely. Rather than increasing frequency (I found 3x day inconvenient enough!) I would increase dosage.
It would be great if you could report back with your own anecdotal experience with DHT!
Thanks for the info Joshua. I will definately report back. I started about 3 days ago and I forgot to measure first but i’m gonna go ahead and do that now. I’ll report back in about a month.
This is great and incredibly interesting to me. I have had significant growth from my T shots alone so hopefully I’ll be able to acquire this prescription (I live in the states).
Thanks, again for posting this, Joshua.
Hello Joshua.I would like to know if I use DHT cream only my genital parts it will be possible to growth hair in my face and my voice could be changed.Thanks.
Max, some of the DHT that’s topically applied will be absorbed into your system, so yes there’s a good chance that using DHT for genital growth will produce other masculinizing effects.
I don’t recommend using DHT to acheive other masculinizing effects as there’s supposed to be a specific ratio of DHT to T in your system, so one probably wouldn’t want to be on it for long periods of time. It’s a good idea to get DHT levels checked in addition to T levels when using DHT.
Hello Joshua, and thanks for this great article. There are a few questions I’d like to ask you about DHT:
– Can DHT be taken only untill the penis has achieved a comfortable length, or must I take it for the rest of my life to maintain the size? I really hope that I can just take it untill I am satisfied, and then go off it with confidence that my penis won’t start to shrink back.
– Did you experience any hair loss? Can hair loss be estimated based on genetics? If you did experience hair loss, did you do anything to counter it?
– How long had you been on T before trying DHT? And how old were you when you started DHT? Are you still applying DHT?
– This one is really important. If my penis has stopped growing from the T, and I start to apply DHT, will it start to grow again?
– Lastly, does age effect hair loss probability? For example, if I apply DHT for a set number of months and I am 17 years old, will I be less likely to experience hair loss than if I were applying DHT as a 30 year old?
Sorry for the multitude of questions. Don’t feel obliged to answer every single one, they are probably better suited for my endocrinologist, I just have a lot of trouble asking them. If you do happen to answer my questions, then hats off to you, you’re a life saver.
Hey MC, I’m happy to answer your questions. Some endos wouldn’t be able to answer these anyway…
You do not need to take DHT for life. I haven’t come across any information that suggests that growth achieved with DHT goes away after treatment has stopped. (It has not in my case.) I wouldn’t take DHT for periods longer than 3 months anyway, for several reasons including…
Yes, I experienced hair loss. I noticed it quite immediately. I started using the topical saw palmetto and that stopped the hair loss. However, I didn’t continue the saw palmetto after I was done the DHT, and I wish I had because the hair loss picked up again at that point and lasted a few more months. In the future, I will use the saw palmetto for an additional 3 months after finishing the DHT. I don’t think age is much of a factor with DHT related hair loss. Lastly, DHT is one aspect of hair loss, while genetics is another.
I started using DHT when I was about 14 months on T, at age 35. I wouldn’t recommend using it until hormone levels are balanced (ie, after 1 year of T.)
No, I’m not using it now. I used it for 3 months, and will use it again twice more, pre-op and post-op (if I op!)
It’s possible that you will experience growth with DHT despite the fact that you’ve stopped growing from T. I say it’s “possible” not because of this fact, only because some of this is genetics too: not everyone experiences measurable growth from DHT. Also, I’ve heard plenty of guys say that they had growth spurts 3, 4, even 5 years after starting T, long past when it seemed like growth had stopped.
Hope that helps!
Yes, it does help. Thanks a ton for all the information, I copied and pasted it into a word document to save and reference in the future.
Cheers!
Hey Joshua, after a couple of months I have come back to this article, and after re-reading my questions and your answers, another question came up.
You said that you used DHT for 3 months, and plan to use it again for another 3 months pre-op. You were pre-op the first time you used it, so why would you need to use it again, for another 3 months?
My question is: If I use DHT for a 3 month period, and then go off it and wait, and then use it for another 3 month period, will I grow even more? And why would I need to take a break?
Either way, could you explain to me why you went on DHT for 3 months, stopped, and now plan to do it again (if you decide to have surgery)? I realize what the purpose of applying DHT is (genital growth for metoidioplasty), but I don’t understand the need for multiple treatments.
Thanks a ton once again Joshua, I really can’t express my gratitude.
I don’t know that another 3 month treatment would provide additional growth or not, but I would use DHT again simply to ensure that I could get all the growth possible before surgery. No harm trying! I would take a break between treatments because the systemic build up of DHT can cause hair loss.
testosterone gel helps to dick growth too?
@Cilene I’ve heard that plain testosterone cream (compounded, not gel) can provide growth, but it’s just the same stuff that’s injected and generally speaking more T doesn’t equal more or faster changes. (In fact, too much can cause feminization.) DHT is a bit of a different beast and more effective for this purpose. Also, I believe there’s a warning in the Androgel leaflet that it should NOT be used on genitals. I *think* this is because of alcohol content, but don’t quote me on that.
DHT is in the US. For the guy in the UK, perhaps you need to travel here to get it.
@Rik Do you know if you obtained DHT from a pharmacy that had it in stock, OR if it’s actually being manufactured again? What’s the DHT concentration that you obtained (%)?
Could DHT be used as a replacement for T therapy. Why and why not? Benefits and disadvantages.
@Dee First, be sure to read the excerpts above (highlighted in blue) from the journal articles. There’s some info there pertinent to your questions. I’m not an endo, but I don’t think DHT is suitable as the sole source of HRT for trans men because I imagine that it’s necessary to get a full spectrum of testosterone for optimum health, not just certain metabolites. Secondly, DHT is pricey and hard to get. It’s also transdermal (representing an accidental transference risk) and needs to be applied several times a day (read: inconvenient.) Personally, I wouldn’t want to use DHT for longer periods than three months because of the high likelihood of hair loss. I think it has it’s place for male enhancement, but only as an adjunct, not as the sole FTM HRT medication.
Regarding Rik’s comment above about DHT being available in the US: I contacted Rik via email for more info and learned that he obtained DHT from a pharmacy in the US that happened to still have some in stock. Given that DHT is not common and is no longer available in North America, Rik got very lucky! The only hope of buying DHT in North America (with a prescription) is if you can find a pharmacy that still happens to have some in stock, like Rik did.
Joshua: Thank you so much for your posts! I am 1 year on T shots now and wanting to use DHT however my doctor is unsure of DHT? Do you know where can I get some w/o prescription. Is the site to buy andractim safe? What else can you recommend?
@Jecx: Yes, my doctor had never heard of DHT either, but he wrote me the prescription when I brought him journal articles and information about it. The only commerically available DHT gel is Andractim. Because it’s a controlled substance in Canada and the US though (just like T is) it’s illegal to import it. They didn’t reply to my emails, but lots of guys order it without problems. It’s wise to know the risks though.
Unfortunately, I have no other recommendations for obtaining DHT at this time.
The age management company I work with has a compounding pharmacy in the States and we prescribed it for our patients. We don’t sell it to anyone except our patients however. If your interested go to our website and if you want to become a patient let me know. I will give my email then.
Josh: I finally got DHT..from mexico thou.. not in North America .. ill probably use the cream in conjunction with pumping. How long did it take you to see growth? ..
Hey Joshua, I asked my therapist about DHT cream and she said that it is Illegal in Canada how do i do what you did? What do i specifically ask for? Could you please let me know so that i can get it and started with using it right away?? Thanks
Mitchell, your therapist’s comments are inaccurate: DHT is not illegal. It is however a controlled substance that requires a prescription, and it’s illegal to import it. Here’s the problem: you can get a prescription if your doctor is willing, but you probably won’t be able to get it filled because there’s currently no manufacturer supplying Canada (and the US.) You’d need to locate a pharmacy that already has DHT in stock, and since DHT isn’t common, that’s going to be a long shot. Your only other option is to buy 2.5% DHT cream online, it’s the stuff that’s surgeon recommended and used in research settings, BUT it’s still illegal for you to import it! Unfortunately, this is the state of things at this time.
hi i am takeing propecia to prevent hair loss, witch is working, but i was wondering if it might stop dick growth as well,? and if i were to try DHT cream would i need to stop propecia? any info will be good thanks
@NeoN: Hmm, it’s a little “chicken and egg,” I think. Propecia will block your body’s production of DHT, and can inhibit certain aspects of virilization, like facial hair, and maybe dick growth too. If you add DHT to the mix, you’ll won’t know how much it will increase your systemic DHT levels, which if elevated enough could further contribute to hair loss. I don’t think I’d mix the two.
Hi, first of all, thank you for this site, looks great!
Just for clarity’s sake: do you mean 20mg of DHT 3x/day or do you mean 20mg of the DHT-cream (which I don’t really think, though, as it seems it would be difficult to figure out the correct amount of gel?)?
I’m currently in Europe and Andractim is available here, so that’s why I’m asking. I have a bunch of questions, hope that’s OK (of course, you don’t have to answer all of them!). I’m afraid they’re a bit special.
You’ve mentioned pausing the application: due to concerns about building up high DHT-levels? Isn’t DHT eliminated naturally, anyway, and does it really take weeks to let DHT-levels drop to ‘normal’ levels?
Do you have any information about what kind of (range of?) elevation of DHT-blood levels we’re talking about here?
In transguys with hypertrophy of the clitoris already present before starting on T, could the effects of DHT differ, e.g. be diminished? I’m not sure but I think the micropenis treatment is only possible up to a certain age? Of course, there are differences regarding both conditions but I’m wondering if this still could be a factor to consider?
A doctor (surgeon) told me that in his experience clitoral growth only takes place during the first 6 to 9 months of HRT (with T). Others say that it keeps growing.
Is the prevention of hair loss under finesteride solely due to the inhibition of converting T into DHT and the resulting lower DHT levels? I thought the exact mechanism hasn’t been established yet and that finesteride seems to protect the root somehow, perhaps similiar to the saw palmetto extract?
Loads of questions and I could come up with even more!
Thank you for your questions, Seti! Here goes…
My dosage was 20mg of DHT topically applied three times a day. My pharmacist wisely packaged the cream in syringes which made dosing really easy: at 20mg / 0.2ml, one line = 0.2ml = 20mg.
DHT is naturally processed, but since you’re adding additional DHT, above and beyond what one would get from a normal T dose, I think it makes sense to cycle it. And, from what I understand about cycling DHT, it does take a couple of weeks to drop. (Though admittedly, most of the information I’ve found relates to those recognized male at birth, not trans men.)
For information about DHT blood serum levels, see the diagrams from this journal article, under “hormonal and biochemical effects”: http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/86/9/4078.full
The effectiveness of DHT with regards to trans male penis enlargement depends on the number of active DHT receptors in the genital tissues. Over time, these receptors “burn out.” (This is why treating microphallus with DHT is less effective in adult males.) When a trans man injects T, some of it is converted to DHT and acts on those receptors. Since there’s a limit to how much DHT the receptors will process, it’s logical to think that the longer one is on T, the less effective DHT will become as an option for enlargement. And, this is also why the most growth from DHT will happen very quickly, while subsequent rounds of treatment will be less effective, if at all.
I have heard many, many anecdotal accounts of (penis) growth spurts years after starting T, and after hysterectomy. Certainly though, the majority of growth happens in that first year.
From what I understand, Finasteride works by blocking conversion of T to DHT , via inhibition of the 5-alpha reductase enzyme. (I wouldn’t touch the stuff, personally.) Saw Palemetto works similarly, but when used topically on the scalp alone, it specifically targets the DHT that accumulates at the root of hair follicles.
Hope this answers your questions!
Hi Joshua:
Thanks for the explanation.
Hm, maybe cycling DHT could address the diminishing susceptability of the androgen receptors, too? Number and ‘density’ of receptors shouldn’t be always constant, as up/down regulation of the receptor’s expression takes place? So that things pick up a bit again when resuming DHT. While anecdotes are not evidence, growth spurts after hysterctomy could point in the same direction.
I’ve no idea what my DHT-levels look like. I could try to get some blood-work done and maybe could share my observations here on the topic. If you guys out there are interested, that is.
Personally, I thought that hormonal treatment of microphalli was only effective up to a certain age because growth of the tunica albuginea isn’t possible later in life. Or maybe other structures are involved, too. That’s why I was wondering if a pre-existing condition of clitoromegaly would mean that further growth under HRT and/or DHT-administration is limited.
I know that finasteride blocks 5-alpha-reductase, but I thought that it’s effectivity in treating MPB was thought to have other underlying mechanisms here. Prevebting the accumulation of these waxy deposits which sort of suffocate the follicle. OK, I’ll have to read up more on the subject.
Maybe I can get hold of an endocrinologist or urologist who would answer some of the questions. I know they’re a bit of the beaten track.
Thanks again.
I’m not certain. In cis gender men, the body compensates for the extra DHT by down regulating the androgen receptors, but I don’t know exactly how this is expressed in trans men.
Since I have blood work covered here in Canada, I looked into getting my DHT levels checked. Unfortunately it’s a rare blood test, not covered, and very expensive. (Samples are shipped on dry ice to… Idaho, interestingly.)
Growth of the tunica albuginea later in life is highly disputed, but those in the jelqing/pumping camp will tell you it’s possible.
I’m guessing that trans men also have a lower number of DHT receptors (or perhaps less active receptors) than cis gender men, which would limit results.
I’m not aware of other underlying mechanisms behind Fin’s effectiveness.
I have found very few medical professionals who know anything about DHT, but that’s a conversation I’d love to have with a trans knowledgable endo!
Ultimately, some guys will have success with DHT and others won’t. For me, it was worth the expense to try, given that even a 1/2″ of growth could mean the difference between clearing my fly or not STPing post-op. I’ve had what I consider success with it, and I plan to do one more round of treatment to see if I can squeeze any more results from the effort.
Why should transmen have lower numbers of androgen receptors (both T and DHT activate this receptor)? After all, the receptor’s genetic code lays on the X-chromosome and ciswomen have a higher sensitivity to T than cismen.
DHT blood-levels aren’t really considered to have much clinical significance so I’d guess that’s why nobody knows a lot about the topic. I’ve got blood work covered, too, but I’d probably have to explain to the doc why I’d like to get DHT done.
Individual genetics always play a mayor role when it comes to differences.
Sadly, there aren’t many trans knowledgable endo around.
Do you think application of DHT post-meta would make sense?
Just wondering, if I applied DHT cream to my hips & thighs would it lower estrogen and reduce female pattern fat storage?
Hey C, DHT doesn’t convert to estrogen, and in cis gender men supplemented DHT can cause a shift in the body’s estrogen/testosterone ratio, with a change in body fat distribution as a possible result. In those assigned female at birth however, I’m not certain that DHT alone would be as effective as “full spectrum” testosterone in this regard. DHT is expensive and long term studies are lacking. Any effect on body fat distribution would be lost once the DHT is stopped. Also, we can’t really pick and choose what we get from hormones, so there would likely be other androgenizing effects from the DHT as well. (It’s unclear if that would be acceptable to you or not.) While DHT can be obtained without a prescription in some parts of the world, a better course of action might be to get a prescription for testosterone. (I say “might” because I don’t know what your full intentions are.) I would also recommend a cautious course of action since hormones have such a big effect on physical and mental health.
hey josh,
I’ve got a question: I’m a married 32 yr old woman (not lesbian), my husband uses testosterone gel 5% everyday, he suggested i use some on my clit everyday for sexual purposes i have been using the gel for 2 months now and my clit has grown triple in size even looks like a tiny penis, which i really like now i feel obsessed to make it bigger. i wanna do this without masculizing effects. i wanna stay looking and sounding like a woman. i do pump my clit sometimes. should i switch from test gel 5% to DHT cream. please help.
Hi Joshua..
congratulations for the website…
I’ve been reading it and it’s very encouraging that a hormone can be a penis bigger.
I’m a biological man and I wish to increase my penis too..
do you know about any case of penis increase with a biological man?
thanks
Hey Joshua, First of all Just wanted to say your website is extremely helpful and awesome.
Also, I was just wondering, do you think you can get DHT into the UK?
Also do you think it’d be okay for a 16 year old to use DHT? I’m planning, if it’s even possible, to get it at the same time I’m old enough to start T.
What are the best hair-loss treatments for it that won’t effect the growth, because MPB is deff in my family :[
Okay, Thanks.
I don’t know whether or not DHT is restricted in the UK. I wouldn’t use DHT until you’ve been on T for at least a year because I think it’s wise to see how your body adjusts to T before adding DHT to the mix.
I don’t know what the best hair loss treatments are. I’ve only experimented with topical saw palmetto myself, and I had good results. If you have MPB in your family, it’s likely that you will lose hair with T alone, never mind DHT. Not all guys will go bald on T, but I think it’s safe to say pretty much all trans men lose some hair when they go on hormones.
@Montana Theoretically, DHT will increase penis size in natal men IF they still have active DHT receptors in the penis. These receptors typically burn out after puberty, but it varies and some adult men will still have active receptors. If you try DHT, it would be a good idea to cycle it, say 2 weeks on 2-3 weeks off, because you don’t want your body’s natural production to get “lazy.” Also, jelqing can help too. Nothing to buy, though you have to be dedicated about it.
@SXYDEZY They say you can’t pick and choose what you get from androgens, so I recommend caution since you don’t want masculinization. Cycling would be a good idea, so that T doesn’t build up in your system. You could try DHT but it’s a more potent androgen and could result in hair growth (and paradoxically hair loss) plus other side effects. Plain T and pumping is probably a better idea in this case.
Hi Guys: I just found your site tonight in my search of more info regarding why DHT was stopped from being made and stopped being imported to the US. I’m glad I found this site but why was it stopped?
@Dr. K, I realize your post is over 2 years old but I did check out your website. I would be interested in becoming a patient providing I can afford your services. I’m a 41 yr. old male (was intersexed so I too seek size gains in my condition), I also have the lack of libido, a constant lack of energy, & regular foggy headedness your (Dr. K’s) site speaks of. Not to mention loss of muscle, etc. It would be great if your clients are still bring prescribed the DHT cream from your compounding pharmacy.
I’ve been taking 100Mg T a week for a very long time. Started when I was 19 and been taking it off and on ever since. I didn’t know about the receptors in the skin … I sure hope I have some (a lot) left. :0/
FYI for the rest of you: I’d never heard about DHT cream until the other day, but with just the T injections & pumping alone I got up to a full 4″ but I got lazy about it and it did shrink back down. The next best results I ever got… again T injection weekly and jelqing. I joined a mens size gain forum and did all the exercises they listed. This would be post-op for guys doing the metoidioplasty. Do these and you’ll be good. Don’t though and you might end up kind of like me. My doctor didn’t tell me to do anything after my surgery where he cut the suspensory ligament to give more length. I didn’t know I needed to do stretching exercises afterward. Apparently he didn’t know to tell me this either. :0(
But many years later T, jelqing, something the site called “oriental stretching”–this technique was a great help too. I gained a surprising amount of girth, 3/4 of an inch girth & 1.5-2″ length, but guess what no T= loss in size for me anyway. Also, if you stop – you shrink back to starting position.
Well, gotta get some shut eye. Night guys. Happy pumping / jelqing to you.
MasMojo – a guy who walked into Dr. Meltzer’s office back in 93′ and was told by him, “You are the John Holmes of all the guys I’ve ever seen!” I replied, yeah, but 1) I was born intersexed so I had a bit already going on there and 2) I used a pump for quite some time before coming to see you. He said, “You used a penis pump! Do you mind if I share this info with my colleagues so we can spread the info to all their tg male patients. I’m not saying I was the 1st in 1993 person to think of it, & in a way via Dr. Meltzer get it to the T-guy’s community, but sometimes I wonder who did. That would be weird to hear my regular name in a reply to that question. 🙂 I’d be like, No way. & you’d be like, Way. & I’d be like, No way bro… That’s me!
Thanks for your comments! I think DHT production was stopped due to a lack of demand. It’s just not commonly Rx’d.
You can contact Dr. K directly through the site that was referenced.
Thanks for your recommendations re: jelqing and pumping, and especially for getting that pumping info to Dr. Meltzer, and thus out to the trans guys community–much appreciated!!
I’ve been doing foreskin restoration for quite sometime now and have had some success. I stumbled on your site here and found some the information very interesting. Any idea if DHT would help promote foreskin growth? I don’t really need the rest to grow any but I guess that would not be too bad of a side effect. Thanks for any information you may have.
steve, I don’t have solid info, but there are DHT receptors in foreskin, so I’d say it’s possible that DHT would help with foreskin restoration. Best of luck!
Where to get DHT 10%?
@Montana: Unfortunately, raw DHT has become very difficult to find in North America (not sure about elsewhere.) The manufacturer over here stopped making it a couple of years ago and now the only way you can get it is to find a pharmacy that already has it in stock (because they can’t order it.) So even if you have a prescription, you may not be able to get it filled. I keep tabs on this issue but haven’t heard anything new in some time. The only DHT I’m aware of that’s obtainable is Andractim, but it’s only 2.5%.
For Josh, As for 5 alpha DHT and its manufacture and availability in the U.S. it appears you track this and that it is no longer made in the U.S. due to lack of demand. As for a 10% DHT cream, if one went to Mexico, would one find it there and if so, are there clinics or compounding pharmacies over the border that might make a DHT cream? Clearly one cannot bring it into the U.S. It appears that perhaps only in Mexico, Asia or Europe might a researcher find 5 alpha DHT to compound. I welcome any thoughts. Ed
Thanks Ed. I’ve heard that DHT cream (not sure of %) is available OTC in MX. Conceivably one could go to MX for an extended vacation and obtain and use DHT legally while there. I imagine that researchers have different sources than consumers. Many DHT studies have just used straight up Andractim Gel.
The best place to buy raw dht powder In order to compound it yourself it best to look into getting them from china. Its cheap to manufacture there 100g is like $260. Get a measuring scale for grams, get dmso as a solvent and carrier and youre good to go.
Just google androstanolone (dht) 100g powder and you will find so many chem sites from china selling it just be carful. […edited…] You usually get it mailed to you within a week. Once you get your powder get it checkeck out In a lab.
Does DHT really work?
@cory Does DHT work? Yes and No. It worked for me but I know others who got nothing from it. It depends on whether or not you have active DHT receptors left in your dick. Those receptors burn out with age and with T use. For this reason, I recommend using DHT earlier on in transition, say after a year or so of being on T (after your body has adjusted to T.) And younger trans men may get better results than older guys.
Hi, if you’re still responding on here – wondering if the clitoral enlargement from the cream is permanent? Even if you decide to come off it? Clitoral growth is my No. 1 priority out of all the masculinising changes, so I’m curious as to whether this is the most effective way to achieve that.
Also, what ratio of water to saw palmetto were you using?
Thanks!
Yes, growth is permanent, as much as T growth is. (Going off T can make things shrivel a bit, though the tissue is still there.) DHT should only be used for a short time.
The most effective way to achieve growth would be to use DHT not too long after starting T, for about 3 months. (Say, 6-12 months after starting, make sure the body has adjusted and T levels are stable.) Most of the growth will happen in the first 4-6 weeks. Also, get a dedicated daily pumping regimen going.
To reduce hair loss from the DHT cream, I rinsed my hair daily with 30-60 drops of saw palmetto tincture in about 1-2 cups of water.
Hope this helps!
I have a problem that I can’t seem to find a solution to.
I’m trans, and I want DHT to make my penis bigger so that I can have a metoidioplasty in the future. But the problem is that I don’t want to take T. I don’t want hair growth or a deeper voice or any of that – just a bigger penis. I know that’s an unusual case, which is why I’m trying to find out if DHT is the right choice for me.
Also, I live in the US, so how would I even get any if compounding pharmacies no longer manufacture it? Would Andractim be a good substitute?
Hey Cy, yes, you could use DHT. If you cycle it (ex. 8 weeks on, 4 weeks off) you can avoid other masculinization. I know of a few people who went this route (both trans men and cis women) and were pleased with the results. No guarantees though. And there’s also no guarantee that the growth you’ll get will be sufficient for metoidioplasty (especially if you get urethroplasty and would like to STP.)
The compounded DHT is not available. Your only option would be Andractim. It is a good substitute, the only downsides are: it’s illegal to import, it’s only 2.5% DHT, and it has alcohol in it. It’s all that’s available though.
Hello I am Italian, is available here dht Andractim, a few years before the intervention of metoidioplasty I wanted to take it, but I did not understand what I have and put WHERE, that is, on the clitoris, but on everything including the glans?
It burns so much? It also goes well 1 time a day? Are being treated for several years already with testoviron 250mg.
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Salve sono italiano, quì è disponibile il dht andractim, qualche anno prima dell’intervento di metoidioplasty volevo prenderlo, ma non ho ben capito quanto devo metterne e DOVE, cioè sul clitoride, ma su tutto compreso il glande?
Brucia tanto? Va bene anche 1 volta al giorno? Sono in cura da diversi anni già con testoviron 250mg.
@Leo Yes, apply the Andractim Gel to the shaft, pull back the foreskin and apply to the glans as well. The alcohol content causes the burning. Applying Lidocaine or Orajel can help alleviate this. Because Andractim Gel is 2.5% DHT, I recommend applying it a minimum of 3x day, up to 12x a day.
Hi,
I saw on one of the comments that you could get the DHT 10% in Mexico. Do you happen to know where or the name of it? Since I live in Mexico I would like to give it a try
Hi Damien, I have heard that it’s available over the counter there but that’s all I know. I was in MX earlier this year but didn’t have the chance to look into it further. If you find out, can you please post back? Thanks in advance!
Thanks so much for all the info you provide Josh!
I have been on T for 4 years now and want to try DHT gel. I know that starting earlier might have been better but I figure better late than never. I was just wondering if I should wait till after my upcoming complete hysto to start DHT or if I should start it now and have my hysto afterwards? Do you think it would make any difference as far as possible growth? Thanks again for all you do!
Glad you found this helpful, Kris! Good question… I would wait until after the hysto because your hormones could get a bit wacky and that may not be the best time to “dick with the mix,” as they say. I hope your surgery goes smoothly!
I spoke to my dr today about taking DHT, and he said there was recent research showing that steroids applied to the genital region increased risk of cancer. Have you heard or read about this?
He recommended against my using DHT for this and said if I chose to do it anyways against his recommendation that he’d want to monitor by ob/gyn health closely. I’m skeptical as I’ve heard fear-mongering over the years with T also, but he is quite experienced with trans male healthcare. Thoughts?
Firstly, was your doctor familiar with DHT specifically? (Most are not.) And the research done on DHT?
Increased cancer of what? Prostate? That won’t apply here (assuming you are not intersex.) Plus, there’s also research that shows that blocking DHT increases prostate cancer risk.
What I would do is ask your doctor for references to that research (in a non-challenging way—docs generally don’t like being challenged!) so you can see it for yourself, then I would also provide your doctor with the research papers listed in this article that show that DHT is safe to use, particularly the first cited article that shows it’s safe to use on genitals.
I was not monitored by an ob/gyn, but I did have bloodwork done the first time I used DHT. The second time my doctor deemed that unnecessary.
Yes, my doctor was familiar with DHT (specifically Andractim) and knew that it wasn’t really available in North America anymore. I don’t know what he was referencing specifically; I believe reproductive cancers? (And in my case prostate cancer would not be a risk.) He said that there was recent research that steroids shouldn’t be applied to the genitals.
It really felt like fear-mongering to me, but he is very experienced with treating trans men which is why I was really thrown and wanted to give him some benefit of the doubt. I have trouble believing an ob/gyn exam to monitor possible changes in terms of abnormalities from DHT is absolutely necessary.
When I next speak with him I’ll ask for research references and pass them along to you, if you’re interested.
Hi Joshua, in your opinion what is the best cycle for using the dht/andractim gel to achieve optimum growth and inhibit hair loss? Also, will a shampoo such as alpecin caffeine shampoo(designed to stop hair loss) be sufficient or must it contain saw palmetto? I would like to use this gel for 2 or 3 months but don’t want to lose any hair or have any other bad side effects.
While I did experience some hair loss, using saw palmetto stopped it in its tracks, so I don’t really think cycling DHT is necessary (especially since it’s not known how that will affect desired growth.) Most people are going to get their growth within 8 weeks anyway, so a 3-month course will be sufficient for growth and shouldn’t cause too much hair loss, especially with saw palmetto.
I didn’t look into general hair loss shampoos, so I can’t comment on that. Why I went with saw palmetto is because it’s proven effective at blocking DHT build up. Look up the ingredients of the shampoo you are considering to see if any of them are known DHT inhibitors. If not, the shampoo is unlikely to help. (Saw palmetto extract shouldn’t be too hard to find at a natural pharmacy or health store.)
Hi,
did you notice something in your chest area while using dht on your dick?
As in pain in my chest? No. Is this happening for you? Might be a good idea to mention it to your doc.
I have an appt with a Dr coming up in January. I hope to see if I can get a Rx for DHT along with my normal T Rx. I just hope it is still available.
Saw Palmetto is supposed to affect the prostate in order to prevent hairloss…. I’m confused as to how do you think this helped you?
DHT use–monitor it, but I give 2 thumbs up….
And as always, appreciate the run-down.
Good question, Elliott! Saw palmetto is used in a lot of anti-hairloss shampoos because it blocks DHT from building up in hair follicles, which contributes to hair loss. This is a great article that goes into more scientific detail: Beards, Baldness and What’s in Your Pants
I had limited clitoral growth and have been on T for 3+ years now. I asked my old doctor about this cream and she said it was anecdotal evidence and not worth me trying it. I’m frustrated though b/c other transguys I know have way more growth than I do. Ideas?
Sorry to hear of your frustration, Shaine. I would venture to say that most primary care doctors don’t know anything about DHT. It’s often just lumped together with T, when it’s actually a bit of a different beast.
There’s enough anecdotal evidence to say that DHT will work for some trans men. If growth is important to you, you could consider bypassing your doctor on this one and ordering online. You’d know within 6-8 weeks if it’s working for you.
If you over 50 does the andractim gel still help increase penis length/growth. Just need to know before wasting my time and money. All info received thus far from posters does not mention age.
That’s a good question. In cisgender men, androgen receptors “burn out” with aging: they decrease in number and sensitivity. Presumably, these receptors also burn out in trans men, through aging and exposure to testosterone. I would theorize then that the best candidates for DHT genital growth are younger trans men in the early stages of HRT. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that older trans men or trans men who have been on HRT for a while wouldn’t experience growth. It’s hard to say for certain as there is very limited data on the role of androgens in regulating female genital tissue structure.
I want to try it for 3 months but I am worried about my wife who is cis female. Do we have to give up sex for 3 months?
Your concern is valid: accidental transference is a risk. I don’t know that abstaining from sex is absolutely required, but that is the route that I took to mitigate the risk.
Hi JOSHUA. you r doing great job bro. I stay in India. I have read the article and everybodys concerns and your suggestions. i’m confused now from where to begin the treatment for myself. so I thought it would be better if I ask you personally. I want to tell you that I have less facial hairs. I have never tested for T levels. I want to have thick beard. and can you suggest me where to apply DHT cream and of what %??? thank you
Thanks for your question, Hassan! I’ve heard of people applying topical DHT cream to their faces to increase beard growth, but whether it’s effective or not would be largely dependent on genetics, I think.
Thanks Joshua. Can you mail me so that whenever i have a question i can ask you?
hello joshua
i am a resident in endo from india, i have a few patients of 5 alpha reductase deficiency, in whom we think that DHT will really work. But we are unable to procure it from india, and unable to find out a place any where in the world from whom we can reliably buy.
can you help me and my patients with any valuable knowledge
regards and thanks in advance
Hi JOSHUA. you r doing great job bro. I’m actually trying to make 10%DHT Cream, I have been using phlojel, but the powder isn’t dissolving into it properly. I don’t think the levitating process is working properly, I have been using a mortar and pestle to try and make it fine as possible and slowly adding the phlojel, following instructions i found online, bk.., after I am finished when applying I still have some grittiness and when the phlojel drys there are white specks every where….
would you know what i could use to get it to mix into phlojel without having any grit..???
I’m a 40+ YO woman in WA state who simply wants clitoris growth for personal and sexual reasons. Not a transman but you all have XX chromosomes like me…and checking bodybuilding boards won’t yield much fruit.
I’m not automatically worried about
head hair loss; very strong hair genes in both sides with no bald males in my bloodline. I have thick, coarse hair the stylists love. But, is DHT so brutal on follicles that I should be concerned?
Also, voice deepening. I already have a deep voice for a female (runs in the fam) and couldn’t sing soprano if you paid me. Should I be worried? I may pursue a voiceover career…
Other options? What about DHEA or pregnenolone cream? I don’t want to raise or twist my estrogen profile either. I’ve never had children so my lifetime estrogen exposure already worries me.
Thanks!!
what is T ?
I have heard from many women now who have been interested in DHT and clitoral growth. Baldness… mother’s side is good too? I had no idea what my family hair genes would yield, and had very thick hair prior to testosterone. DHT still did a number on me and it was noticeable very quickly. The saw palmetto I used did seem to help though. Hair loss is a risk, but it’s tough to say how much of one. Voice deepening probably wouldn’t be much of a risk with DHT. I believe that function is more handled by Testosterone. I don’t know too much about DHEA or pregnenolone; they’re both restricted substances here in Canada. I would be extremely cautious with them since they impact hormones. (I can’t see how they would contribute to any clitoral growth.) Pumping could be another avenue you could explore.
I’m post-metoidioplasty but only recently got my hands on Andractim/DHT (didnt get a chance to use it pre-op), will I still see results from use of DHT? I’ve also heard that DHT can increase inner labial size, but what tissue that was my former inner labia was wrapped around my penis to increase girth, so I’m not sure where to be applying it and also if there’s any risk to me doing so.
Pre-op or post-op shouldn’t matter, it’s more about whether or not you still have active DHT receptors. You can apply it to your penis, no risks re: labial tissue. Hope it works for you!
Reporting a month back, it seems that DHT has been producing minimal effects, and even then I can’t tell if it’s placebo. I’ve been applying it to the head of my penis (after pulling the foreskin back), and all around the foreskin which was formally labial tissue. I seem to look about the same as I did before use of DHT, plus the alcohol component has left some irritation near where my urethral exit is (I had UL).
How long does it take to start seeing noticeable growth? I’m using Andractim 2.5% 3x a day, applying a dose about the size of a pea each time.
Thank you for reporting back! It sounds like you are doing all the right things. Changes should be apparent within 3-8 weeks. It’s possible that you don’t have the required active receptors. Or, you may just need more time with it.
This article is awesome josh.. Question Is the 2.5 percent version much worse than the 10? Or can you just adjust the dosages to get the same results? I’m from America so I have to order 2.5 online I suppose.. I’m 23, born male with good genetics for beard growth but all I have is very light vellus and transitional hairs all over my face would applying this dht maybe help and maturing these hairs my test levels are normal range.. I know i should have more growth by now I’m thinking low dht levels may be an issue for guys like me too.. very interesting topic thanks!
Thanks Charlie! I’ve never used the 2.5% gel, and didn’t use DHT for beard growth, but my understanding is that you could apply more of it to increase the amount of DHT you are taking. Hope it helps!
Hey Joshua, can you expand at all on the saw palmetto tincture rinse? I’m imagining something like you pouring it over your head while massaging it into your scalp… do you then rinse it out, or allow it to dry?
Sure, thank you for your question, Sami. I mixed the tincture with water in a yogurt container, leaned over the tub and poured that over my head slowly, working it into my scalp with my hands. I did not rinse it out, I left in in. It did seem to work quite quickly at slowing down hair loss so I recommend its use with DHT.
Hey Joshua, i bought some Andractim gel at all saints clinic online and my question is, is it supposed to have some tiny bubbles in the gel? that is not the case with my testogel which is totally transparent.
I’m sorry, I don’t know!
Hey! Does anyone know how I can get in contact with Dogus up there to see if he still has that second tube of Andractim? I’ve been telling my Endo about DHT for three years now, and she just decided to write the prescription for me but, no more DHT! D,X
Hi Joshua! Your site is soooo helpful.
I think I over did it on the DHT. I found a place in the Philippians that makes a 10%DHT cream. I have used it off and on for the last year with definite growth. I used the topical Saw Palmetto but not faithfully and now I notice my beautiful thick hair is much thinner. It kind of took me by surprise. Do you know if the hair loss is permanent or temporary and will eventually grow back?
Thank you Michael, glad to hear it! Are you on Testosterone as well? While DHT can cause some hair loss, so does T, so unless it’s very obviously associated with the DHT use, it could be either/both. You could try things like Rogaine/Minoxidil, they might help with some regrowth, but unassisted I’d say it’s doubtful your hair would grow back the same as it was. It’s a sacrifice for sure!
Thanks, Joshua, for taking time to respond! Yes, I am also on a Testosterone cream and have been for about 4 years. My doctor recommended it because of low T under 200. I guess I have always had low T and DHT which contributed to an undeveloped penis called a micro-penis. I have seen very little growth while taking Testosterone but I feel much better. I have definitely seen growth with the 10% DHT cream. Because I saw results, I probably over used the DHT and didn’t cycle off of it like you recommended. I did not notice any hair loss with the Testosterone prior to a year ago but did when I started DHT. I haven’t seen any additional penis growth with the DHT over the last several months so I will definitely stop and maybe it will at least stop the hair loss. However, I don’t think I can stop the Testosterone cream as I don’t want to feel depressed again.
Possibly a short term dose of Propecia for a month might quickly lower the DHT in my body and stop the immediate hair loss. What are your thoughts?
Thank you for the clarifications. I don’t know enough about Propecia to know if a month on it would help, but stopping the DHT will halt the advancement of hair loss.
I keep coming back to this thread, which means others are probably finding it too. My experience with DHT use was 5 tubes of 2.5% slowly and sporadically over the course of 3-4 years. Growth each time I began cycling. It filled in my beard MUCH more rapidly than Minox. Use at the end of shot cycle and only with professional oversight.
Some comments, DO NOT ORDER ANYTHING from the ALLSAINTS CLINIC. Now that Andracitim is not available, they are shipping false product! (Too bad, I used them for 3 orders previously.)
If anyone has any updated tips on gaining access to DHT in the US, or getting it through an M>>> please share. J.elliottgray and Gmail.
A word on hairloss. DHT gel will hasten hairloss. I used it in micro-doses (a pea sized amount of 2.5% gel) at the end of a shot cycle so as not to compound the effect. DHT exists within your body already and an enzyme works to turn excess Testosterone into DHT (and Estrogen). This is why you want to be on the correct strength and duration of a shot cycle. If your MD says your levels are “fine,” please push for your levels to be OPTIMAL. Measure the PEAK and TROUGH of your shot cycles, more than needed. Not only does this effect things like losing hair unnecessarily, but in-optimal shot cycle also has more serious complications (higher risk for auto-immune diseases, mental health, weight gain, thyroid complications, and more). This also effects more than just DHT levels, wild swings in hormones lead to excess work on the Pituitary-adrenal-hypothamus system. You want stability.
Back to DHT in the body….. Regarding hair, Saw Palmetto works by blocking the enzyme that helps turn Testosterone into DHT (much like Propecia or other systematic hairloss remedies). This means you won’t experience the other benefits of DHT (muscle growth, voice, masculinization). It also means your body must convert excess testosterone to something besides DHT, maybe Estrogen, maybe something else. Topical applications are best if they are high strength, Personally I use 5% Minoxidl (Rogaine).
Thank you for sharing your experience, James! Interesting about shot cycles. I don’t quite understand this part: “in-optimal shot cycle also has more serious complications” Can you please elaborate?
Did you have any issues getting bloodwork covered by insurance through this?
You might be aware of this, it’s an effort to work with pharmacists to bring DHT to the US and potentially do a study about its effects.
https://ftmmetoidioplasty.tumblr.com/post/172431999998/dht-interest-form
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Hello, please help, you said that the dht should not contain alcohol, however I bought Andractim and it contains alcohol and I’ve been applying it on my clit for 6 days, it burns a bit for few minutes and then there’s no burning feeling anymore.. Is it okay?? plz advise because I don’t have any other option here with no alcohol.. I’m a Trans man by the way, thank you.
From where can i get testosterone gel over the counter? Does anyone know? I live in Finland so i have to order it from europe. UK is the easiest country to order it. Does anyone live in UK and know about this? I’m a transguy btw. You can DM me on my instagram also @aliaa.no
Hi Oliver! I didn’t use Andractim but from what I’ve heard from those who have, the burning from the alcohol goes away and doesn’t do damage.
Testosterone requires a prescription, it’s not available OTC.
Omg, I’m glad people are still on this thread! Another trans man here- is there ANY way to get this stuff anymore? Oliver, where’d you get the Andractim? I’m talking to my doc monday for a perscription, but it says it’s almost impossible/impossible to get DHT in the US anymore, so I’m worried. It’s like god wants me dead, lol.
Anyone has any idea where can i get dht these days ?
Hi Joshua, thanks for this information. How much would you say 20mg looks like? Is it a fingernail? Smaller? Larger? And I have the 2.5% so I will apply it 12 times a day so each hour.
Since obtaining DHT here in the US is near impossible, would it be a poor idea to just purchase Proviron (Mesterolone) via UGL and compounding your own cream from the tablets at home? This compound is nearly identical in structure to DHT and is known for its androgenic properties. If anyone knows of a way to obtain proper DHT cream in the USA or wishes to communicate w/ me more about this Proviron idea please email me johnnyboy2nite at gmail. Cheers
Hi Johnny, Over the years, I’ve heard from people with similar ideas. There are a few synthetics that are close in structure to DHT. But you’re left with the same issue: buying from an unknown source. Whether it’s DHT products from Russian Star Peptides or All Saints, or Proviron from a UGL, there are risks both legal and medical. It’s really unfortunate, because I believe that DHT should be a hormonal option for trans guys who want it.
Hello, I am grin México, my Friend son has Been diagnosed with alfa reductase deficiency and we desperately hace to find DHT, all saints is trustable? Does anyone know a provider??? Thanks for your help, this is for a little boy
All Saints Clinic is not trustworthy. The fact that they won’t put their DHT product on their website is suspicious.
Hey all,
I was wondering if anyone has any news or info to share? My doctor is working with me to find someone to compound it in our state, but I’m wondering if there’s someone who’s able to make it and ship it out with a prescription? Or is there something that prohibits this? She was also wondering about the dosage for this too, there doesn’t seem to be anything concrete to help us. I gave her a ballpark based on some studies for cis gender male patients. If you want to reach out to me fiction fairy 93 at gmail or DreamsInDigital on the surgery forum.
Btw someone from Reddit gave me their info. I emailed All Saints Clinic last night (09/09/20) on product availability and this was their exact response:
Yes, we sell Andractim. You were looking at our old automated website. We only operate via word of mouth now.
In the first instance, please tell us where you live as there are many countries to which we no longer send, AS
You won’t be able to get it compounded as there is no legitimate source of raw DHT available in the US.
I would advise caution regarding All Saints. The fact that they’re only selling via word-of-mouth now tells me something is not right. Why wouldn’t they just update their clunky old “automated” website unless they’re doing something shady? If they are selling real Andractim made by Besins, it would be safer than the Russian Star Peptides DHT products which are likely fake. If you decide to go with All Saints, definitely use a prescription because packages have been opened at the border.
I don’t know if this campaign is still active, but there was a doctor working with pharmacists to advocate to get DHT back stateside for trans guys. Those interested can fill out this form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScxPaocqo81JWs5zPahQGeodhcP172qxq44gPomY_r5BY3tmg/viewform
Right, I get that there is no straight DHT on the market anymore. But I was thinking more along the lines of taking it from an existing medication (i.e. Finasteride) on the market, breaking it down into a powder, and then adding a solvent with a gelling agent to it. That should still be in the wheel house of a compounding pharmacy, the question is finding one who would do it. Otherwise you would have to do it yourself at home with the prescription medication.
Btw I realize the medication I tossed out is a blocker, I was just using that as an example because it was all I could think of off the top of my head.
Ah, I see. That is beyond my knowledge. This might help you find a willing compounding pharmacy: http://www.pccarx.com/Resources/FindACompounder
Hi, and a big thanks in advance to anybody who has any answers for me.
Does anybody know how to order DHT from England? I don’t have a prescription, I wouldn’t even know where to start with my doctor.
Hello, so I’ve been desperate to get dht for years and I finally just went with it and ordered from all saints clinic, an acquaintance of mine got it and used it and they were pre t and are seeing results already so that makes me think the andractim is legit, but I didn’t have a prescription for it….if it gets ceased at the border does anybody know what the consequences can be?
Hi so I am an 19 yo future FTM transgender. I haven’t started anything yet (yay religious parents) but as soon as I get out of the house I plan to start my trans journey.
I just got a job and I want to use the money to get a bigger clit so that it later on translates to a bigger dick.
I wanted DHT because of the small masculine effects so my parents don’t know but it’s saddening to find out that in the states you can’t get it unless you go to illegal route.
I don’t have any money to travel to Mexico to get anything either.
So is there anything out there that can just permanently grow my clit? It doesn’t even have to be shy just anything at all.
Pumping might help, but the permanency of its effects are debated. Even T doesn’t cause permanent growth in everyone. Sorry I don’t have a better answer!
I’m really hesitant on getting on DHT which I’m sure it’s impossible to get anyways especially from my doc but I have been pumping for a couple of years and I’ve definitely seen a difference in size and I will still keep pumping (safely of course) but I definitely, definitely, definitely want a bigger size than what I have. What about viagra? Would that help? I was thinking of going in QueerDoc because I went through a couple of docs that won’t prescribe me T or DHT
DHT isn’t available in North America. It’s available in Europe but it’s difficult to access from here. There are places online selling what they claim is DHT cream but it’s impossible to know what it really is since DHT test kits aren’t available. Viagra/Cialis help with blood flow and Cialis is sometimes Rx’d by Metoidioplasty surgeons to help prevent retraction after surgery, but they won’t cause growth. Pumping is probably your best bet.
My endocrinologist would not prescribe me DHT so I went back to my old standby before I was on testosterone, the dhea. I loved dhea and I preferred it to testosterone. They talked me into testosterone because they said it was more scientific but I could legally buy without a script d h e a and now also no I am not their prisoner , there are legal online services where I could get testosterone and have the care of an endocrinologist and counselor over the internet getting blood tests locally to test my levels oh, but for now it’s cheaper with my insurance to have an endocrinologist local.
Anyways DHEA cream 50 mg you can order online and it’s fairly inexpensive. I put the tiniest little bit on my trans dick and my penis is growing. And I work on it and gets erect it is increased in with which is what I need because I can’t get surgery. They say you can only get so big and that’s just on testosterone but just putting a tiny bit on the sides not on the actual unsheathed part. Because it is not circumsized it looks like a really short uncircumcised penis and when you rub it the foreskin unsheaths the inner penis. It’s really exciting that it is finally increasing in thickness in the sides also are very muscular. I’m working on it regular, and using cream. For a while I was rigging up the plastic tube you used siphon a fish tank so I had complete control over the suction so I didn’t overdo it but encouraged it. I encourage up to get bigger and stay that way. It’s symbolic of my life and still feeling timid and a little fragile, hiding and feeling I never will be a man but this is helping me where is wearing a piece of silicone. Not being able to have surgery it was hard and I was thinking of getting a tattoo of a whale jumping straight out of the water you turn my lower pelvis in my belly button, as a phallic symbol that to me would represent my member just for me not for anyone else I don’t really care what anyone else would think. I’m done with relationships. Now I just need to be there for myself. I’ve given a lot and then hurt a lot and this would really help me. So I’m excited to see changes and know that it is working.
Please note that I have no idea what the risks are of me doing this so I can’t advise that it’s a good idea I’m just telling you my experience so I suppose I am taking risks but for the Teeny tiniest little bit 50 mg DHEA cream on the sides of skin over my trans penis, is feeling like it is making it huge when erect. Unfortunatly yet does not seem to keep that size when it goes down and I doubt I could use it for sex. Don’t put the cream inside it. It works on the inside when you apply it on the outside. I wouldn’t put it directly on the inside.
I am alittle bit buried so maybe if I lose weight. It is also the base of it wider. I will update. Good luck everyone it is important to us.
Correction. The whale tattoo would be jumping straight out of the water from my lower pelvis to below my belly button. I don’t know If I can find an artist. Some have shamed me but I think I know of a woman that will do it. It offs something I needed for years but I was settling for other things so I never did it. I know it’s a tough spot but I don’t really care what our looks like as long as it’s there. Would be cool of it was 3D but I don’t want to spend a great deal of money. As is to get a good tattoo is expensive but worth it
In Canada, DHEA is a controlled substance and requires a prescription. This is because it can affect both T and E levels, increase the risk of hormone-related cancers such as breast and ovarian cancer, and lead to higher cholesterol. In high doses, like over 1500mg, it can cause clitoral enlargement. It sounds like you’re using a low dose so what you could be experiencing is the effects of vasodilation–increased blood flow. I’m glad you’re happy about the effects you’re getting from it and that you’re in the care of an endocrinologist, who can monitor your hormone levels and make sure that DHEA isn’t causing any negative health effects.
Hi Joshua!! May I ask if Proviron (oral) is counted as DHT? Im planning use it to helps my bottom growth after 1 year on T if it really could help. Any recommend of dose base on your experience on DHT please? Im 27yo transman.
Thank you for your reply and wish you all the health. Cheers!
Proviron/Mesterolone is a DHT derivative. I researched this years ago and don’t remember details but didn’t get much hope from what I found. That said, this guy reported growth after taking Proviron for 1 year. It increases sex drive. You’ll want to monitor hormones and watch for signs of high blood pressure. Having never used it, I can’t recommend a dosage but if you Google Proviron and dosage you’ll find some suggested dosages. Good luck!
Hello Joshua, thanks for all the help and the information you’re sharing. You say DHT cream is available in Europe, I am able to get a prescription from my endocrinologist but I would like to know where I can order it. Only places I can find is the ASC website (sketchy) and the Russian Star Peptides one (sketchier). Because of the low price of the latter, I thought about just ordering it but I’m not sure if it would be illegal, I cannot find any information about it.
I can’t imagine that ordering from RussianSP would not be illegal. If it was legal to order from there, they wouldn’t ship packages in “stealth”. According to their website, Besins Healthcare still manufactures Andractim. Maybe your pharmacist could contact them?